Peter Greene: Why So Many Teachers Turned Against Common Core

Posts don’t get much better than this. Check out Peter Greene’s post (from Curmudgication) on why teachers (like him) turned on and rejected Common Core. I’m not a teacher but many of his reasons for rejecting it are 100% reflections of my own. Read Diane Ravitch’s summary of course, but the full post is really worth the effort to click through to get. Peter will remind you of many of the reasons you’ve been alarmed and have been fighting. It’s always nice to read when someone else really “gets it.”
Thanks Peter.

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The conservative journal “Education Next” reported a poll showing that support for Common Core plummeted among teachers from 76% to 46%. Conservative supporters of Common Core think that teachers are afraid of accountability but that doesn’t explain why 76% thought it was a good idea last year.

Peter Greene explains the teachers’ change of mind, which he is well-qualified to do since he is a teacher.

Here are a few of the reasons:

First, writes Greene, was the lying.

“Remember how supporters of the Core used to tell us all the time that these standards were written by teachers? All. The. Time. Do you know why they’ve stopped saying that? Because it’s a lie, and at this point, most everybody knows it’s a lie. The “significant” teacher input, the basis in solid research– all lies. When someone is trying to sell you medicine and they tell you that it was…

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8 thoughts on “Peter Greene: Why So Many Teachers Turned Against Common Core

      1. For the logic behind the snarky comment. From the article…

        REASON NUMBER 4: “Fourth was when they slandered opponents as extremists. Either do what they said or find that Arne Duncan labeled you as misguided and misinformed.” – Diane Ravitch’s blog.

        which drills down to…

        “The slander.

        Arne Duncan told newspaper editors to paint core opponents as misguided and misinformed. Then he portrayed objectors as whiny white suburban moms. Opposition to CCSS was repeatedly portrayed as coming strictly from the tin hat wing of the Tea Party. If you opened your mouth to say something bad about the Core, you were immediately tagged a right-wing crank. There was no recognition that any complaint about any portion of the Core could possibly be legitimate. It had to be politically motivated or the result of ignorance.” – Peter Greene’s post on Curmudgucation

        which drills down to his earlier post back in November

        ““It’s fascinating to me that some of the pushback is coming from, sort of, white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were, and that’s pretty scary,” – Arne Duncan quoted by Peter Greene also on Curmudugaction…. which comes from a news story by the Washington Post written by Valerie Strauss on November 16, 2013.

        Apparently, the only people allowed to complain are ‘whiny, white suburban girls’. Sigh.

        Since Peter and Paul are taken, so who was left? (no, not repeat)… Just Mary.

      2. 1) A BELL CURVE… If schools were graded A,B,C,D, and Fail.

        Question 4 is for all schools across the nation. The perception by the groups (Public, Parents, Teachers, African Americans) were extremely consistent. The results appear to be a classic bell curve with a strong peak and an average of C. Hispanics were a bit more generate in their rating. {3% A; 17% B; 57% C; 19% D and 5% Fail for Public.}

        Ratings improved with questions 5 and 6 for how people perceive their own States schools and local Schools respectively. 4/30/44/17/6 and 12/35/35/12/6.

        It appears to be a lot of ‘it’s not our schools it is your schools that suck response’.

        2) SCHOOL SPENDING… The response to question 9 and 10 is very interesting.

        When asked how much money is spent per child in public schools in the US as a whole, the public and parents answered $10,100 to $10,840. If I recollect correctly, that is very close to the Louisiana average. African Americans weighed in at $14,000. Hispanics at $11,500.

        What is interesting, is that Teachers responded about $2,000 LOWER. Now why is that?

        Even more interesting, Q9, when asked about spending on their local school district, the responses plummeted. The public said $6,500. Parents said $5,775. Teachers fell to $6,000. In this case, African Americans and Hispanic responses matched the public.


        I wonder why there is so much difference in the responses between the local spending and the national spending.

        a) I would expect the local responses were the most accurate – and based on actual experiences of the questioned on what is really being spent. About $6,500 spent per student/local district.

        b) But there is a $4,000 difference between what these groups know is being spent when they can directly observe the expenditures and what is being reported as being spent in the national average numbers. That is a very significant difference in perception on expenditures. (61%).

        c) The African American groups difference in estimates was just about double. $6,500 versus $14,000. That perception difference could be at the root of a lot of the grievances.

      3. Back on Common Core. Those questions start at Q27 on page 11.

        1) Teachers claimed to be the most knowledgeable group on Common Core standards (89% reported having heard of the Standards before today… with 38% claiming very knowledgeable and 49% claiming somewhat knowledgeable).
        — Really? 11% of teachers had not heard of Common Core ‘before today’ in 2014?!?

        2) Public and Parents were only at 50/50 on having heard about Common Core before the survey on 2014. The African American and Hispanic groups were down in the 25% and 28% range.

        3) Large percentages of the Public, Parents, AA’s and Hispanics are not knowledgeable on Common Core. 56% for the Public. 43% for the Parents. 14% for the Teachers. 55% for AA’s. 48% for Hispanics. Those are pretty large numbers for being this far along in the process of CC. It does not speak well for the education effort for bringing people on board.

        4) Q29 says that pretty much everyone believes that ‘the federal government will receive DETAILED DATE ON INDIVIDUAL STUDENT’S TESTs’. 72% for Teachers (most knowledgeable group). 69% for the Public. 71% for the Parents.

        5) Q31 is the support CC question. Teachers are at 11% for strongly supporting CC. They are at 47% for supporting CC either strongly or somewhat. and at 40% for Opposing it either somewhat or strongly.

        5a) The teacher opposition to CC has increased 4 FOLD in one year. That is a huge swing against CC from the most knowledgeable group about CC.

        5b) Teacher support for CC has drooped from 76% to 46% in one year. Amazing.

        5c) Democrat opposition has increased from 10% to 17%. Almost double. This growth came from the group that was previously neutral.

        5d) Republican opposition has increased from 16% to 37%. Just over double. This growth came from the group that previously supported CC. Support dropped from 57% to 43% – so CC support lost its majority with this group.

        Supporters for CC will have to do a lot of public relations work in the near future if they are to save their issue. These results indicate that as people find out more of the reality of what CC is and does, the more people oppose CC.

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